Giles Gray

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  Life of Brian

  by berrygerry in

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  i was a younger dub at the time of this release, and stopped watching this movie near its beginning, when john cleese was stoned with the huge rock for saying jehovah.. this was despite having been (and continuing to be) a major john cleese (and monty python) fan.. any fans of this film?.

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  Welease wod-a-wick...

  Crucifixion? Good. Over there. Take the line on the left. One cross each.
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  Jehovah's Witness Recovery is no more...

  by TimeBandit in

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  i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.

  i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.

  i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.

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  Ooige

  As I pointed out, there are people that are trapped in and my heart goes out to them, it really does.

  My post was more to try to encourage people who could and maybe should have moved on to put the past fully behind them and move on to a richer life free from anything JW.

  There is so much more in life to attain when you fully move on.
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  Jehovah's Witness Recovery is no more...

  by TimeBandit in

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  i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.

  i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.

  i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.

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  This is going to sound harsh and might upset a few people, which isn't my intention, but the site shutting down may be a blessing in disguise for many.

  Forums like these are vital in helping vulnerable people, like those who are just exiting from the JWs. We have all been there and know how valuable they can be.

  But there is a harmful aspect that people need to be cautious of and that is how easily people can become reliant on these sites.

  I see these sites as an aid to recovery from the trauma of being exposed to a harmful cult like religion. They help people with the transition from cult life, to being strong enough to be able to live and cope with the real world. To become just a normal person if you like.

  Long term dependence on these sites inhibits the ability for people to move on properly with their lives and living in the real world. Full recovery from the JWs is the only healthy place people leaving should aspire to and that means living and coping in the world outside the religion.

  If people linger around sites like JWR too long, they can end up in a situation of permanent reliance. That's when sites like these become unhealthy.

  The fact that so many people are coming here from JWR feeling such loss makes me suspicious that they have become too dependent, when really they could and should have moved on before now.

  Won't apply to everyone obviously. Some people who are out but have believing family can't just move on, for example.

  But I feel that people need to ask the question that if the abrupt dissolving of a web site upsets them that much, have they really moved on with their lives for the better? Rather than make this site "your new home", maybe it's time to embrace the real world and truly leave behind all things JW.

  Oh, and just to explain why I'm here, I got sucked back just because I wanted to challenge one of the members on here who persistently cheats in their arguments.

  I must have been feeling weak that day.
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  Are the witnesses really False prophets?

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you read the following statements from the wt.

  organization... do they satisfy you?

  or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.

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  The best reply to the statment that JWs don't claim to be 'inspired prophets' is to point out to them that you don't have to claim to be inspired to be a false prophet. What false prophet was ever inspired anyway?

  It's a bit of a play on words but it works very well.

  On the point of the apostles having wrong ideas, there is no biblical proof that they shared their wrong ideas in their ministry, unlike JWs.

  The other point to bring out is that Jesus corrected the wrong ideas of the apostles right away. He didn't leave them to promote their wrong ideas for 70 years or more, excusing such errors to the fact they were imperfect men. If Jesus is directing them now, why is he not continuing to correct his followers like he did in Acts 1:6

  Both of these points contrast the truely appointed from the self appointed. The fact is that JWs are false prophets even by their own definition and standards.
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

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  2. bible

  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  punkofnice

  
  

  What are you trying to say, in a nutshell?

  "Nutcase more like '," as Basil Fawlty once said...
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  TROT

  What is time to you?

  It's about quarter to three where I am...
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

  1. watchtower
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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  I do apologise.

  I was trying to be facetious.
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  Have you ever stopped and noticed anything about the world?

  by TheRevealerOfTruth in

  1. watchtower
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  this is one of the last things you are expected to do.

  in a society that creates you to go home and watch the kardashians.

  in an economic system where the currency trust is wavering on a private banking system.

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  TROT

  Go prove to me that time exists

  Doesn't the fact that you would have to wait for the answer of whether time exists actually prove that time exists?
  
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  Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

  it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

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  So that's who's responsible for those crop circles... well I never...
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  Evidence for a Young Earth

  by Perry in

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  for additional information:.

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  Fencing

  I don't know that I've ever come across anyone as intellectually vacant and intentionally ignorant as Perry. It's astonishing to behold.
  

  You've met snowbird, right...?